the goblin showed, explaining "...the real problem is finding a busy forum, in that most members like to be with other members, and yet, how is anyone ever going to know where those forums with many members are where most forums owners don't like one asking that question, simply it's easy to find SMF startup forums, and very hard to find their established ones now...", in fact, the goblin thought that as half the problem, the other half being the poster's lack of incentive to post, the goblin explained that too, saying "...in my view, most people mean well and post for other people's sake, or for the forum itself, which we know is unsustainable in the end because it's just charity posting so to speak, whereas they should be posting for themselves, totally selfish because those type posters are the ones that are both unstoppable and improve over time with practice..." continuing "...conversely, another problem is too many forums for too few members, in that everyone seems to want to be admin now, they wait for other to turn up, and then everyone waits for others to turn up, so everywhere goes quiet..."