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Author Topic: [Guide] About Hacking and How to Prevent it.  (Read 5437 times)
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« on: June 12, 2008, 09:11:03 pm »
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What Is Hacking
     Hacking is using a antibot or finding some ones password, and hijacking there account. Why should you watch out. WHen they hack your account, they can do ANYTHING to your forum, such as spam, or GET RID OF! So watch it. So how can you prevent auto bots. You cannot prevent them. Hacking by passwords, can be a pain, so let me help you out!

Bad Password (mario)
See, people can easly hack your account!
Really easy!

Okay Password (mario133)
As you can see, this guy used mario133 as his password.
Making it okay because the hacker uding random stuff
like mario1 mario2 mario 23892 and so on. But it can
still be hacked, but not as easy.

Super Strong Password (m@R10)
Now this guy is a Charm! He used CAPITAL and LOWERCASE
LETTERS and used @ instead of A, 1 instead of I and 0 instead
of O.

Oh, remeber to change your password often!
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« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2008, 09:24:29 pm »
Sorry but i'd hardly call any of those decent passwords. They wouldn't be hard to get with the right software. Your superstrong password is actually rather weak when you consider most hackers use 1337 and that's all that is. mario in 1337 is m@R10

If you use a decent password and change it regularly you shouldn't get hacked.

Decent password

z1jnqLzn19fO7EfdmyelnpZr9dasIBrrCiRYOMSCPwlCFy7Pl7TskivxPIfSqqr

Of course that is probably a bit of overkill. The first 10 to 20 would probly be sufficient for most people.

Try this page for passwords.

Copy and paste your passwords to a USB stick or CD instead of saving them on your PC if you are paranoid about your PC being hacked. Name the file your passwords are on something that looks boring. Start an email account that just YOU know about to save your passwords to.
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« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2008, 09:48:33 pm »
so! Atlease this helps!
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« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2008, 02:10:45 am »
It's better to pick a password you can remember rather than saving it somewhere. What if someone got hold of that CD or thumb drive?

5 Tips For An Unbreakable Password
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« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2008, 02:47:04 am »
What if someone got hold of it? Well personally i don't usually have hackers in my house. If i did tho they certainly wouldn't have access to those items anyway.
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« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2008, 03:12:41 am »
It's not about having hackers in your house. A lot of people could want your password. A thumb drive would be carried around by you, generally. What if you drop it somewhere? It's always safer not to store your password anywhere except in your head. I'd rather be safe than cry when I lose my forum.
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« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2008, 05:40:01 am »
Sorry to say, but putting a tight password won't prevent hacking. I can do a short explanation, I have been a programmer for while. Hacking can't be prevented this, hacking is done with several methods. One is using exploits.

I don't know how to avoid people using exploits, with that in my mind. I got a question to ask SMF FOR FREE, how can I restrict people using exploits on my forum? I don't know about the functions of SMF FOR FREE, thats why. I also want to know an answer to a different question, are using proxy webs illegal? Some people say they are illegal and some say they are not. I would like to know the real answer.
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« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2008, 07:50:23 am »
ok to answer your question, proxies ARE NOT illegal. but if you have ip banned someone, and they keep coming back, you can email a letter to all the prixies you can find, and they will block that ip adress if they have any sense. and the only REAL way to stop it is to add something like runescape where you get locked out after 7 tries or so and cannot come back for some time.


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« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2008, 08:32:02 am »
I'm going to ask that you do not delve too far into how hackers hack in this thread.  

Using a strong, alpha-numeric password, changing it often, and never giving it to anyone is what you should do.
Do not use the same password on every site you visit.  

We see a LOT of posts here claiming a forum has been hacked when in reality (95% of the time) it has been the practice of giving too many people that you do not know admin access.     There is NO reason to need other admins on your forum unless you run a very large forum that has a lot of traffic.    Look at the size of THIS forum.   There is ONE Administrator and THREE Global Moderators and that is plenty to take care of this place.    When you give admin access to others you give THEM complete control of your forum and RISK having yourself deleted, banned, your forum destroyed.   

We warn you guys about this alot here.
Another member wrote this recently:   Safeguarding Your Forum
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« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2008, 10:24:12 am »
Quote from: Sheepy on June 12, 2008, 09:24:29 pm
Sorry but i'd hardly call any of those decent passwords. They wouldn't be hard to get with the right software. Your superstrong password is actually rather weak when you consider most hackers use 1337 and that's all that is. mario in 1337 is m@R10

If you use a decent password and change it regularly you shouldn't get hacked.

Decent password

z1jnqLzn19fO7EfdmyelnpZr9dasIBrrCiRYOMSCPwlCFy7Pl7TskivxPIfSqqr

Of course that is probably a bit of overkill. The first 10 to 20 would probly be sufficient for most people.

Try this page for passwords.

Copy and paste your passwords to a USB stick or CD instead of saving them on your PC if you are paranoid about your PC being hacked. Name the file your passwords are on something that looks boring. Start an email account that just YOU know about to save your passwords to.


A decent password is using letters and numbers combined.

Ex: gwa12goz4lh7
^^^^^ that password is easy if you write it down and memorize it.
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« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2008, 02:15:18 pm »
Quote from: simply sibyl on June 13, 2008, 08:32:02 am
I'm going to ask that you do not delve too far into how hackers hack in this thread.  

Using a strong, alpha-numeric password, changing it often, and never giving it to anyone is what you should do.
Do not use the same password on every site you visit.  

We see a LOT of posts here claiming a forum has been hacked when in reality (95% of the time) it has been the practice of giving too many people that you do not know admin access.     There is NO reason to need other admins on your forum unless you run a very large forum that has a lot of traffic.    Look at the size of THIS forum.   There is ONE Administrator and THREE Global Moderators and that is plenty to take care of this place.    When you give admin access to others you give THEM complete control of your forum and RISK having yourself deleted, banned, your forum destroyed.   

We warn you guys about this alot here.
Another member wrote this recently:   Safeguarding Your Forum

sibyl only problem with that is how would I get rid of 4 of my other admins? My crew is kinda based off of 4 founders.  We have 3 super/global mods. 2 reg board mods. And regular members.
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« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2008, 02:40:17 pm »
Quote from: Sparkwattclock on June 18, 2008, 02:15:18 pm
sibyl only problem with that is how would I get rid of 4 of my other admins? My crew is kinda based off of 4 founders.  We have 3 super/global mods. 2 reg board mods. And regular members.

This all does depend on the origins of a forum too.
When I set my forum up long ago there were 3 of us who decided to get together and make a forum.  I had known these people for a very long time - 2 years.    When setting it up, we decided I would be the Administrator.  They did not want to do so, and did not feel they would understand how to do things.   As the forum was a joint idea I made sure they had "some" control but not all. They never used it anyways, but I did know they could be trusted.   I have a second (backup) admin acct for myself. 

These things should be discussed when setting a forum up and thought thru carefully.
Since you ALREADY have them set as Admins..    heck I dont know the answer to that question other then a whole bunch of diplomacy.   Demoting them could well hurt feelings.   Dont know what to tell ya.
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« Reply #12 on: June 18, 2008, 02:44:27 pm »
Quote from: simply sibyl on June 18, 2008, 02:40:17 pm
Quote from: Sparkwattclock on June 18, 2008, 02:15:18 pm
sibyl only problem with that is how would I get rid of 4 of my other admins? My crew is kinda based off of 4 founders.  We have 3 super/global mods. 2 reg board mods. And regular members.

This all does depend on the origins of a forum too.
When I set my forum up long ago there were 3 of us who decided to get together and make a forum.  I had known these people for a very long time.    When setting it up, we decided I would be the Administrator.  They did not want to do so, and did not feel they would understand how to do things.   As the forum was a joint idea I made sure they had "some" control but not all. They never used it anyways, but I did know they
could be trusted.   I have a second (backup) admin acct for myself. 

These things should be discussed when setting a forum up and thought thru carefully.
Since you ALREADY have them set as Admins..    heck I dont know the answer to that question other then a whole bunch of diplomacy.   Demoting them could well hurt feelings.   Dont know what to tell ya.

well the thing is i don't want a hacker or someone to use one of their accounts.  When the come back i'll explain and give their power back.
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« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2008, 03:04:01 pm »
How about making a separate member group for administrators(excluding the owner of the forums), and stop them from editing boards, changing permissions, deleting accounts? Instead of just hosting SMF you could download and host it. Therefore you can back it up. But still, people don't want to go through the trouble of  downloading and hosting, so the member group thing is a good idea.

I downloaded it and I don't even let my staff delete accs boards ETC; even though I can back it up.
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« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2008, 01:36:20 am »
make sure that you dont store passwords into your cookies or cache's idr which very malicious
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